2.1 million Britons join online petition urging 2nd vote on leaving EU
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The Foreign Ministers from EU’s founding six Jean Asselborn from Luxemburg, Paolo Gentiloni from Italy, Frank-Walter Steinmeier from Germany, Didier Reynders from Belgium, Jean-Marc Ayrault from France and Bert Koenders from the Netherlands, brief the media after a meeting on the so-called Brexit in Berlin, Germany, Saturday, June 25, 2016.
LONDON >> More than 2.1 million people joined an online petition by Saturday urging the government to hold a second referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union.
The petition to Parliament said the government should “implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60 per cent, based a turnout less than 75 per cent, there should be another referendum.”
A majority of 52 per cent voted to leave, with a turnout of 72 per cent of the 46.5 million eligible voters.
Parliament is obliged to “consider for a debate” all petitions attracting more than 100,000 signatures.
Leading campaigners in the debate before of Thursday’s referendum, including Prime Minister David Cameron — who said Friday that he would resign ——said a second referendum would not be possible.
Labour Party lawmaker David Lammy Saturday called on Parliament to “stop this madness” and vote against the referendum decision to leave the EU.
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“Wake up. We do not have to do this. We can stop this madness through a vote in Parliament,” he said in a statement posted on Twitter. “The Leave campaign’s platform has already unravelled and some people wish they hadn’t voted to Leave,” Lammy wrote.
Meanwhile, more than 148,000 people signed another petition urging London Mayor Sadiq Khan to declare the city independent from Britain and join the European Union.
“London is an international city, and we want to remain at the heart of Europe,” said the petition on change.org, initiated by London-based journalist James O’Malley.
Voting in the referendum produced huge regional differences, with most areas in central and northern England returning large majorities for Leave, while London and Scotland voted strongly for Remain.
54 responses to “2.1 million Britons join online petition urging 2nd vote on leaving EU”
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Cry babies wanna change the rules after the people voted. It’s done live with it.
Just wait. If Trump is elected President of the U.S., those who voted for him will soon be crying and demanding a 2nd vote.
From the frying pan into the fire.
What? You mean Hillary?
Actually, it’s not done, except in your mind.
Their system of government is different than in the U.S. (surprise!) and Parliament can do almost anything. There is no Constitution that binds Parliament.
A second vote would be politically impossible.
Why? Were the British elite to overturn this referendum, a clear expression of the majority, the predictable reaction of the electorate would be profound. Pretty obvious “leave” again. No, the Parliament wouldn’t risk that, opting instead for a gradual, negotiated disengagement from the EU.
Winston – The EU said that there isn’t going to be a “gradual, negotiated disengagement.” The EU leadership said that if the UK is leaving, they want them out quickly. It won’t be up to the UK how this works.
It would be helpful if you read and understood the rules of the organization before commenting.
There doesn’t need to be a second vote. Oh my goodness … can’t you do some research?
Klastri, it would be helpful if you read and understood the rules of the organization before commenting. Article 50 of the EU’s Lisbon Treaty provides for a two-year exit process to renegotiate trade, business and political links between the U.K. and what remains of the EU.
Oh Klastri now now. All a second vote means is…waaawaaaaawaaaaaaa I did not get my way. Come on man! A vote is a vote and when its done its done. Just because it did not go your way doesn’t mean there is a do over. WTF is up with you man!
What is so different?
A parliamentary system is a system of democratic governance of a state where the executive branch derives its democratic legitimacy from legislature (parliament) and is also held accountable to that legislature.
Well, let’s see …. no Constitution? How’s that for a start?
There is no central governing document, so Parliament can change things on the fly.
Well, let’s see…no Constitution? How’s about the Magna Carta? How’s that for a start?
That is the basis of Parliament and the Constitution. They have checks and balances. Man,
Where have you been. Like I said before, you are not as smart as you think.
Klastri, who professes to know everything, claims that he is or was a lawyer who graduated from the University of Michigan Law School. I feel sorry for those he might have defended.
How does this affect us here in Hawaii? Educate me.
When stock prices plummet (for arcane reasons), retirement investment funds dwindle because of it, and wholesale prices on goods rise, we all feel it. That is just some of the problem with an internationally linked economic system.
Stock prices only “plummeted” by the amount they surged in the 3 days prior to the referendum, in expectation of a “stay” vote.
That isn’t true, of course. That would mean that the DJIA had risen by more than 600 points last week, which is a ridiculous thing for you to suggest. But enjoy your fantasy.
Keep your powder dry, boys. The Dow fell about 3% Friday. For a little perspective, here’s some history:
A history of declines (in the DJIA)
(1900 – December 2013)
Type of decline Average frequency1 Average length2 Last occurrence Previous occurrence
-5% or more About 3 times a year 47 days October 2013 August 2013
-10% or more About once a year 115 days October 2011 July 2010
-15% or more About once every 2 years 216 days October 2011 March 2009
-20% or more About once every 3-1/2 years 338 days March 2009 October 2002
Friday was no reason to panic. Neither will Monday be. Will there be continued volatility? Maybe, but here’s the key fact, the Fed has created an environment in which there is only one place for cash to go, the US stock market.
Dow Jones Industrial average was down 1.55% on the week.
Some things are much more important than near term inconveniences or whether stocks take a beating. Most things in life worth having are hard. Anything that works toward more local control and against the centralization of power for a global financial racketeering dictatorship is indubitably a good thing.
Well, the Hawaii flag does feature the “Union flag of the United Kingdom”. Maybe Hawaii should vote to leave the U.S.. I say this in jest although the native Hawaiians may like the idea.
I guess it only affects you if you don’t want to live under a rock. Do you follow the stock market at all?
Guess some that voted to leave having second thoughts.
No just sore losers.
Sore losers? The people who voted to leave are the ones who are regretful. They won.
Couldn’t you please have someone read the articles to you before commenting?
Guy just doesn’t know when to quit. I got to say this. They talk about Trump this and Trump that but not once have they had an answer for the corruption and falsehoods of the husband and wife super duo.
Klastri is the new Allie. Full of nonsense comment and full of hate. Right Klastr? Remember that hate you spewed Klastri? Remember that nonsense you always spew.
Kinda too late huh?
No, it’s not. Parliament can overturn a referendum.
Maybe you should read a bit about their process. The referendum is non-binding. However, Parliament would create a political firestorm if they ignored it. And Cameron, offering his resignation, definitely doesn’t agree with you.
I know all about their process.
Parliament can ignore this election. You can obfuscate that if you want. I don’t care.
At least it was a straightforward leave or stay ballot. And blank votes didn’t count. Maybe our local government could learn how to run a real election.
https://twitter.com/mcpli/status/743506822699585536/photo/1
Democracy doesn’t matter. The new reality is, just keep re-counting until I get the result I want, because the result I want is the only one that matters.
Your analysis of Her Majesty’s Government is very interesting.
Do you realize that they have a Parliament?
The referendum is not binding on the previous nor the next government. They do not have to follow it. There was a huge surge in Google queries from the UK following the voting asking “What is the EU?”
I sure hope the U S voters Google “Clinton Scandals” before they vote.
And, Google “Trump Failures,” too.
It’s exactly like the folks commenting here, except on here, no one Googled first.
It’s really remarkable that only a tiny fraction of folks commenting understand how the UK Parliamentary system works. Because, of course, the only system of government on Earth is what we have in the United States. Exactly!
Ok, genius. Explain the likely political ramifications if Parliament ignores this referendum. Doing so would create a massive political backlash. In all likelihood a revote would fall more heavily on the “leave” side.
Winston – No, it wouldn’t. This vote, if it occurred again tomorrow, would likely have a different result. To protect the UK economy, Parliament may act differently. The UK is not an absolute democracy.
Like I said before, klastri suffers from myopia in that his argument focuses strictly on the economic consequences while ignoring that other factors influenced the vote such as more autonomy and less bureaucratic meddling from Brussels along with the immigration issue. For Parliament to not honor the referendum in order “to protect the UK economy” would be equally myopic.
DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Take a bow, Britain! The quiet people of our country rise up against an arrogant, out-of-touch political class and a contemptuous Brussels elite
Hillary’s speech writers have the weekend off.
“… vote is less than 60 per cent, based a turnout less than 75 per cent, there should be another …. ”
I might try this the next time I am playing tennis and lose a close match. I could propose the following new rule, to be applied retroactively:
” if the the winning game score ratio of the loser’s games to the winner’s games is more than 60%, based on a total number of games that is less than 75 of the games before a tie breaker, then the match shall be held over”
Hillary was a crooked attorney, self serving State and WH First Lady, Secretary of State who killed or had people killed because of poor judgement and a junior Senator. She should be the POTUS? I hardly think so unless we are gluttons for more punishment.
There’s a lot at stake for Obama. Trump gets in its all over for the “regime”.
Yes, of course. Mrs. Clinton either murdered people herself, or ordered others to do that. Exactly.
You certainly have a remarkable mind!
Vince Foster ???
Looks like they are going 2 out of 3.
Former the EU was a dumb idea from the beginning. It resulted in sovereign countries giving up their sovereignty to a central European government. The French were no longer French, the English were no longer English, and the Germans were no longer German. People were allowed to flow freely between European counties and sponge off those that were the best off economically. The British people said enough is enough and voted to once again become an independent sovereign country. Smart move.
Your entire analysis is ridiculous. You believe that the French were no longer French? What do you know about the French people?
What, exactly, is wrong with you?
Klastri, what do I know about the French people? I lived in Europe for nine years when most people who lived in France actually were French and most people who lived in Germany actually were Germans. Subsequently, I visited Europe several times and could not believe the transformation that occurred under the European Union. Germany, France, Switzerland and other countries were overrun with immigrants from everywhere. The unique European cultures that once existed were being wiped out. Women wearing dirndls in Marienplatz in Munich were being replaced by woman in burkas. Non-French languages were being spoken everywhere in France. Having a French passport no longer meant the bearer was French. It only meant that the bearer was a French citizen. French as an ethnicity was gradually being replaced by French as a nationality, a hodgepodge of people from Africa, the Middle-East and East Europe. Graffiti, which previously was non-existent in Europe was everywhere. Europe had become a mess. So Klastri, please tell me what you know about the French people.
Couple main issues to have this vote was due to the populace of the UK not wanting to continue to be the country giving vast amounts of their tax money to the EU to support other countries which they believe will continue and create financial uncertainties in their own country. The other issue immigration having open borders which they believe is very problematic in controlling the terrorist infiltration.
Short term there will be problems of leaving the EU to overcome economically. Long term the UK populace believe this will allow them to get their country back and keep their values and cultures to continue for the good of their country.
Looking it at a business standpoint subsidiaries of a conglomerate not doing well, let’s sell it off or get out of that business before it creates greater damage to the conglomerate.
Politically the one world order has now taken a hit and are trying to reverse this situation. Why because other countries may start following suit so that this one world order will not continue to grow and become a reality. No one knows if a one world order will be good or bad for our human race. If manipulated to have this become reality by the powerful money mongrels in such short order will it create uprisings and revolts? Are the terrorist plots orchestrated by them to help expedite this? Who knows maybe just maybe if the human race continues its evolution over many thousands and millions of years on this planet, it may become a natural existence that all humans be governed under one order.